Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
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Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
Pour avoir découvert il y a quelques années une Bay State fin XIXème dans une vente, hélas en très mauvais état, je m'étais informé sur John Haynes, facteur US (probablement de ceux à l'origine de la guitare américaine à l'égal des Martin ou des frères Larson, parmi d'autres) dont suit un petit résumé de son histoire et des guitares Bay State ::
"Bay guitars were built by John C. Haynes...who started in 1856, first working under the guidance of Master Luther Pehr Anderberg from Sweden, at the age of 15.
After the war, he decided to go out on his own and set up shop in Boston in 1865.
Shortly afterward, (I think due to lack of funds) he teamed up with one William B. Tilton then the "Tilton Improvements" were added and the name under the Company of Bay State, who also made the Ditson and Excelsior brands as well as others...was Haynes/Tilton Pat. improvements.
Instruments previously manufactured in Boston, MA, between 1865 and circa 1910.
The Oliver Ditson Company, Inc. was formed in 1835 by music publisher Oliver Ditson (1811-1888).
Ditson was a primary force in music merchandising, distribution, and retail sales on the East Coast.
He also helped establish two musical instrument manufacturers: The John Church Company of Cincinnati, Oh, and Lyon & Healy (Washburn) in Chicago, IL.
In 1865, Ditson established a manufacturing branch of his company under the supervision of John Haynes, called the John C. Haynes Company. This branch built guitars for a number of trademarks, such as Bay State, Tilton, and Haynes Excelsior."
Source: Tom Wheeler, American Guitars.
Une Bay State Ditson F12 vendue par Tfoa ::
Un Model E/Rio de 1897 en vente sur Zikinf ::
"Bay guitars were built by John C. Haynes...who started in 1856, first working under the guidance of Master Luther Pehr Anderberg from Sweden, at the age of 15.
After the war, he decided to go out on his own and set up shop in Boston in 1865.
Shortly afterward, (I think due to lack of funds) he teamed up with one William B. Tilton then the "Tilton Improvements" were added and the name under the Company of Bay State, who also made the Ditson and Excelsior brands as well as others...was Haynes/Tilton Pat. improvements.
Instruments previously manufactured in Boston, MA, between 1865 and circa 1910.
The Oliver Ditson Company, Inc. was formed in 1835 by music publisher Oliver Ditson (1811-1888).
Ditson was a primary force in music merchandising, distribution, and retail sales on the East Coast.
He also helped establish two musical instrument manufacturers: The John Church Company of Cincinnati, Oh, and Lyon & Healy (Washburn) in Chicago, IL.
In 1865, Ditson established a manufacturing branch of his company under the supervision of John Haynes, called the John C. Haynes Company. This branch built guitars for a number of trademarks, such as Bay State, Tilton, and Haynes Excelsior."
Source: Tom Wheeler, American Guitars.
Une Bay State Ditson F12 vendue par Tfoa ::
Un Model E/Rio de 1897 en vente sur Zikinf ::
RIO- Messages : 14
Date d'inscription : 04/12/2019
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Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
Oh le vilain Rio sur dosse!! Et de cette époque en plus, j’y crois pas
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Jean-Marie Fouilleul n° 425,500, 500/68
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Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
remy a écrit:Oh le vilain Rio sur dosse!! Et de cette époque en plus, j’y crois pas
Moi non plus.
Coriolan92- Messages : 5398
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RIO- Messages : 14
Date d'inscription : 04/12/2019
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Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
Le chevalet n'est visiblement pas d'origine. Quelle idée de le faire si large...
parlornut- Messages : 3119
Date d'inscription : 27/05/2013
Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
mmouais.... je suis pas un fin connaisseur mais pour moi, elle n'est pas trés jolie...
phil2759- Messages : 1991
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Age : 65
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Lisa brieux- Messages : 5
Date d'inscription : 26/10/2020
Localisation : Paris
Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
_________________
Jean-Marie Fouilleul n° 425,500, 500/68
OM Thomas Fejoz n°102
https://remylefer.bandcamp.com/follow_me
https://open.spotify.com/album/6trcdKDEqGm8CDlKj8yFiQ?si=GVrBDsDcSWmp1FXnfT2iSw&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A6trcdKDEqGm8CDlKj8yFiQ
Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
"L'image ne s'affiche pas correctement sur mon écran, est-ce aussi le cas pour vous ?"
elle est vieillotte mais pour moi l'image est OK.
elle est vieillotte mais pour moi l'image est OK.
phil2759- Messages : 1991
Date d'inscription : 16/07/2017
Age : 65
Localisation : drôme provençale
Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
phil2759 a écrit:"L'image ne s'affiche pas correctement sur mon écran, est-ce aussi le cas pour vous ?"
elle est vieillotte mais pour moi l'image est OK.
le problème doit venir de moi merci
Lisa brieux- Messages : 5
Date d'inscription : 26/10/2020
Localisation : Paris
Re: Bay State, Haynes Excelsior, Ditson Guitars
Lisa brieux a écrit:phil2759 a écrit:"L'image ne s'affiche pas correctement sur mon écran, est-ce aussi le cas pour vous ?"
elle est vieillotte mais pour moi l'image est OK.
le problème doit venir de moi merci
en fait, je crois que l'image est ancienne, c'est tout...
phil2759- Messages : 1991
Date d'inscription : 16/07/2017
Age : 65
Localisation : drôme provençale
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